“I, for one, did not know that writing in the comment field would be distributed to all 100+ members on the list…”
-tV. This is was the issue.

@Mort
“These panelists have standings as social media gurus in Vancouver and thereby have a vested interest in upholding that reputation through events like these.” -Mort

A vested interest in upholding what reputation? How can one uphold a reputation as a ‘social media guru’ when they have never called themselves that. That’s something you and others call them.

“If I understand him right he was looking for a panelist that is not a social media celeb but “just” a citizen journalist to provide some insight into the issue without all the social media baggage.” -Mort

What the heck is a social media ‘celeb’? And how does using social media well stop someone from being a citizen journalist? Lastly, what the heck is ‘all the social media baggage’?

Thanks Mort, I look forward to your response.

“I, for one, did not know that writing in the comment field would be distributed to all 100+ members on the list…”
-tV. This is was the issue.

@Mort
“These panelists have standings as social media gurus in Vancouver and thereby have a vested interest in upholding that reputation through events like these.” -Mort

A vested interest in upholding what reputation? How can one uphold a reputation as a ‘social media guru’ when they have never called themselves that. That’s something you and others call them.

“If I understand him right he was looking for a panelist that is not a social media celeb but “just” a citizen journalist to provide some insight into the issue without all the social media baggage.” -Mort

What the heck is a social media ‘celeb’? And how does using social media well stop someone from being a citizen journalist? Lastly, what the heck is ‘all the social media baggage’?

Thanks Mort, I look forward to your response.

Thanks for the comments everyone. Since I try to avoid Facebook as much as humanly possible…I didn’t know there wasn’t a discussion on going there.

I think the question of how the commenting systems work and when they work and don’t is one that we’re still grappling with.

Now as for the excellent points that Tobias brought up…that’s the subject of another post.

Or hopefully the panel at Northern Voice.

Thanks for the comments everyone. Since I try to avoid Facebook as much as humanly possible…I didn’t know there wasn’t a discussion on going there.

I think the question of how the commenting systems work and when they work and don’t is one that we’re still grappling with.

Now as for the excellent points that Tobias brought up…that’s the subject of another post.

Or hopefully the panel at Northern Voice.

Tobias has a valid point, but not in the way he was interpreted. As far as I understand it when he implied that the panelists have some vested interest in social media and that there should be some more impartial representatives on the speaker list what he was refering to was not as much that the panelists rake in tons of cash on social media in general (or the Olympics in particular) but rather that these panelists have standings as social media gurus in Vancouver and thereby have a vested interest in upholding that reputation through events like these. If I understand him right he was looking for a panelist that is not a social media celeb but “just” a citizen journalist to provide some insight into the issue without all the social media baggage. I have a feeling this links all the way back to the fact that by and large most social media events in Vancouver tend to have the same set of panelists and in such instances there is usually an academic concern over an echo chamber effect. Whether this is true or not is a different story all together, but it is a relevant discussion not being had at the moment.

Cue flame war.

Tobias has a valid point, but not in the way he was interpreted. As far as I understand it when he implied that the panelists have some vested interest in social media and that there should be some more impartial representatives on the speaker list what he was refering to was not as much that the panelists rake in tons of cash on social media in general (or the Olympics in particular) but rather that these panelists have standings as social media gurus in Vancouver and thereby have a vested interest in upholding that reputation through events like these. If I understand him right he was looking for a panelist that is not a social media celeb but “just” a citizen journalist to provide some insight into the issue without all the social media baggage. I have a feeling this links all the way back to the fact that by and large most social media events in Vancouver tend to have the same set of panelists and in such instances there is usually an academic concern over an echo chamber effect. Whether this is true or not is a different story all together, but it is a relevant discussion not being had at the moment.

Cue flame war.

You might be interested in the follow-up here (see the comments), which is much more positive:

http://corvusconsulting.ca/2010/03/tuesdays-loss/

And indeed, the question of situating online discussion is a good one. I, for one, did not know that writing in the comment field would be distributed to all 100+ members on the list… comment fields are usually just that — comment fields.

You might be interested in the follow-up here (see the comments), which is much more positive:

http://corvusconsulting.ca/2010/03/tuesdays-loss/

And indeed, the question of situating online discussion is a good one. I, for one, did not know that writing in the comment field would be distributed to all 100+ members on the list… comment fields are usually just that — comment fields.

Unfortunately there doesn’t seem to be much discussion going on in the Facebook group. Either people are just tired of the arguing, or they prefer to save their opinions for the actual event.

Personally, I think Tobias made some good points, but you’re right – I think most people just got tired of having that conversation in the comments section.

Maybe it’s because there’s an unspoken rule about the comment sections being reserved for short, pithy responses, not long multi-paragraph essays.

With that in mind, I think I’m finished here.

Unfortunately there doesn’t seem to be much discussion going on in the Facebook group. Either people are just tired of the arguing, or they prefer to save their opinions for the actual event.

Personally, I think Tobias made some good points, but you’re right – I think most people just got tired of having that conversation in the comments section.

Maybe it’s because there’s an unspoken rule about the comment sections being reserved for short, pithy responses, not long multi-paragraph essays.

With that in mind, I think I’m finished here.

I didn’t mention the move to Facebook because when I looked in on that forum this morning there was nothing there, and to me it signalled that the discussion had died.

The linear comment form at Meetup and elsewhere isn’t much different from how the Facebook discussion interface is, and the only big difference would be being able to track comments through the newsfeed. I’m not sure how different that would have made it all.

I didn’t mention the move to Facebook because when I looked in on that forum this morning there was nothing there, and to me it signalled that the discussion had died.

The linear comment form at Meetup and elsewhere isn’t much different from how the Facebook discussion interface is, and the only big difference would be being able to track comments through the newsfeed. I’m not sure how different that would have made it all.