Is there a perfect blog editor? Does anyone care if there is?

Very soon after I started blogging, I started using a blog editor to power up my blogging (and prevent the “aiiigghhh I lost my connection and my post!!!!” which was very common at conferences, still is actually). In those days I was using Qumana for the most part, which makes sense since I was a part of the company and helping guide the growth of the app.

For its time, Qumana was a fantastic blogging app. It was almost perfect (I was always pushing for more and better refinement), but Qumana has long dropped from my toolkit as it hasn’t really been updated in a long time. After Qumana, I used Windows Live Writer. Again, almost perfect and probably one of the few apps I miss since switching to a Mac.

Right now my app of choice is Blogo and it’s good enough, but maybe not as great as I’d like. I have ecto, and while it’s good, it lacks a few refinements and doesn’t seem to have any active development going on, which always concerns me when choosing (and paying for) an app. Yesterday I bought the MacHeist nano bundle and it comes with MacJournal, which has a post to blog function. All of which has made me wonder if there is a perfect (Mac) blog editor, and if there is does anyone care?

What got me thinking about this is Paisano’s post on WebWorkerDaily about the “death of blogging” and the iPad as its potential savior (is there anything that the iPad isn’t going to save?):

What’s the Problem?
I think part of the problem with blogs is that they are too static and dull. We need to infuse new life into blogs and make them more dynamic. Just as Flash added a freshness to web sites when it first appeared on the scene, we need to do something that will change the game for blogging.
The other part of the problem involves the incredible shrinking attention span of readers/viewers. Hollywood learned long again that motion pictures need to reach out and grab the audience right away within the first 10 minutes or else its opening weekend will be its last. That’s why most movies look and feel like music videos these days. Quick cut editing and special effects reign supreme. Even the publishing industry has taken its queue from the movie industry and insist that its authors write tighter and more exciting stories.
link: The Future of Blogging – WebWorkerDaily

The key here is the writing part of the blogging problem. I have now three apps for writing and note taking. Between Scrivener, where I do most of my book writing and a lot of other writing as well, Yojimbo, where I gather a lot of the links and such researching for books, etc., and MacJournal, which I haven’t really tried yet, I have a lot of potential blogging firepower, but little practical connections.

I can easily gather a ton of stuff in Yojimbo (I love it’s drop-tab area), but I can’t pull it together and publish from there (easily). I can write my brains out in Scrivener (which I do), and I can pull in a lot of stuff into it, but not as easily as Yojimbo, but I can’t publish directly to any of my blogs. The best I’ve been able to do is write it and copy and paste. I still have to add links and images to finish off the posts. MacJournal … well it might be able to post to my blog (I haven’t tried yet), but the whole collecting of stuff part is lacking.

Then comes the critical question—does anyone really care?

I can’t remember the last time I saw someone using an editor (someone who I hadn’t shown the benefits of blog editors, btw) to post to their blog. Everyone just logs into their blog and posts directly. What if you can’t get online? Oh well. I guess it will have to wait.

See, I think that the how people post influences what they will post and the quality of the end result as well. Look at the default post area in WordPress 2.9.2:

That is not a lot of area to post in. It is confined and cramped. Yes, I know that you can make the post area bigger, but we’re talking defaults here (and most people never change the default settings). Don’t you think that small area leads to shorter posts? Here is the default posting area of Blogo (and this very post!):

Huge difference, eh? Lots of room. Space to see ideas develop. I think one of the ways we can all improve blogging is working with better tools to improve our writing.

Now, I just wish I could find it.

It’s well worth noting that on of the early versions of Qumana was built on a semantic note-taking principle and you could easy mix and match different things you dropped into to make a post (or other documents as well).

What I’d really like is the writing interface of Scrivener coupled with the drag and drop into a notes area (with tags) like Yojimbo and being able to post as easily as Blogo. Anyone?

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  • http://susanbeebe.com Susan Beebe

    I use Google docs – it auto saves – tons of room! :)

    • http://www.trishussey.com/ Tris Hussey

      Sure, true. But I can’t remember if it posts seamlessly to blogs. Not to mention it is online. With Google Gears dying a slow death (Mac folks running 10.6 are kinda left out), I’m thinking more about client apps.

      Google Docs, like a lot of word processors does see that you need a large slate to start with. Though that can be daunting as well. Hence the ability to start with gathered snippets.

      • http://susanbeebe.com Susan Beebe

        Yes, the Google Gears problem is a doozie for me. If it fails, my work is toast! Thus my constant hitting of the Ctrl-S keys to save as I go. If that fails, then i cut/paste over to another desktop application, yes.. MS Word 2010. I have a new Win7 (64bit) laptop – for some reason, there doesn’t seem to be many blog editing tools for the Windows platform.

        Google docs does not seamlessly post to my blog. I have to cut/paste and sometimes re-format items. (not ideal). Your idea of “snippets” is a smart one! I’ve done that too, then save as draft, keep writing, copy over, save again, etc. until finished.

        • http://blog.ivanpope.com Ivan Pope

          Another great thing about Scribefire is that it remembers everything that you write, even if you close it in the middle and come back to it.

  • http://susanbeebe.com Susan Beebe

    I use Google docs – it auto saves – tons of room! :)

    • http://www.trishussey.com/ Tris Hussey

      Sure, true. But I can’t remember if it posts seamlessly to blogs. Not to mention it is online. With Google Gears dying a slow death (Mac folks running 10.6 are kinda left out), I’m thinking more about client apps.

      Google Docs, like a lot of word processors does see that you need a large slate to start with. Though that can be daunting as well. Hence the ability to start with gathered snippets.

      • http://susanbeebe.com Susan Beebe

        Yes, the Google Gears problem is a doozie for me. If it fails, my work is toast! Thus my constant hitting of the Ctrl-S keys to save as I go. If that fails, then i cut/paste over to another desktop application, yes.. MS Word 2010. I have a new Win7 (64bit) laptop – for some reason, there doesn’t seem to be many blog editing tools for the Windows platform.

        Google docs does not seamlessly post to my blog. I have to cut/paste and sometimes re-format items. (not ideal). Your idea of “snippets” is a smart one! I’ve done that too, then save as draft, keep writing, copy over, save again, etc. until finished.

        • http://blog.ivanpope.com Ivan Pope

          Another great thing about Scribefire is that it remembers everything that you write, even if you close it in the middle and come back to it.

  • http://www.markevans.ca Mark Evans

    Tris,
    Great post. I’ve used a number of blog editors (Ecto, Qumana, Blogo), and found them wanting in some way. For now, I’m mostly using the WordPress editors, which leaves a lot to be desired, particularly when it comes to the UI.

    Mark

    • http://www.trishussey.com/ Tris Hussey

      Thanks Mark. Exactly. For all the focus on writing that WordPress has, the tool to actually do it is rather wanting. Yes, I know that this is due to TinyMCE, but I’ve never understood why people put up with the web-based interfaces when the offline alternative are significantly better.

  • http://www.markevans.ca Mark Evans

    Tris,
    Great post. I’ve used a number of blog editors (Ecto, Qumana, Blogo), and found them wanting in some way. For now, I’m mostly using the WordPress editors, which leaves a lot to be desired, particularly when it comes to the UI.

    Mark

    • http://www.trishussey.com/ Tris Hussey

      Thanks Mark. Exactly. For all the focus on writing that WordPress has, the tool to actually do it is rather wanting. Yes, I know that this is due to TinyMCE, but I’ve never understood why people put up with the web-based interfaces when the offline alternative are significantly better.

  • http://bill.crazyriver.com Bill Kempthorne

    Used Blogo the other day for a post going up tomorrow. Out of reflex I just pasted in a url to a Youtube video and it handled it and placed it inline in the text. Not that you couldn’t get that in the WordPress UI – but when the software works when are concentrating on the content rather than what type of embed tag…. well that is a little cool.

    • http://www.trishussey.com/ Tris Hussey

      Bill, you’re right that is a really great feature. What I’d love to be able to do is gather more and then blog it.

      I guess I still wish the original Qumana that I used in 2005 still worked…

      • http://bill.crazyriver.com Bill Kempthorne

        And now you made me go back down memory lane with software I used to use, you know you can still get a receipt from Kagi from 1998??

  • http://bill.crazyriver.com Bill Kempthorne

    Used Blogo the other day for a post going up tomorrow. Out of reflex I just pasted in a url to a Youtube video and it handled it and placed it inline in the text. Not that you couldn’t get that in the WordPress UI – but when the software works when are concentrating on the content rather than what type of embed tag…. well that is a little cool.

    • http://www.trishussey.com/ Tris Hussey

      Bill, you’re right that is a really great feature. What I’d love to be able to do is gather more and then blog it.

      I guess I still wish the original Qumana that I used in 2005 still worked…

      • http://bill.crazyriver.com Bill Kempthorne

        And now you made me go back down memory lane with software I used to use, you know you can still get a receipt from Kagi from 1998??

  • http://www.jankarlsbjerg.com/ Jan Karlsbjerg

    In the bad old days, you had to change a setting to make WordPress’s editor bigger (as to your point about defaults), but now you only have to drag-and-drop the bottom-right corner of the editor.

    • http://www.trishussey.com/ Tris Hussey

      True, but a lot of people don’t know that and first impressions, I think, guide how people use the tool. So, the writing area is small, and maybe the post should be too.

  • http://www.jankarlsbjerg.com/ Jan Karlsbjerg

    In the bad old days, you had to change a setting to make WordPress’s editor bigger (as to your point about defaults), but now you only have to drag-and-drop the bottom-right corner of the editor.

    • http://www.trishussey.com/ Tris Hussey

      True, but a lot of people don’t know that and first impressions, I think, guide how people use the tool. So, the writing area is small, and maybe the post should be too.

  • http://blog.ivanpope.com Ivan Pope

    I use Scribefire, which is a Firefox plug in. At the click of the mouse I open up Scribefire from any web page, including anything I’ve highlighted. I can drag elements off the page and format and save and make notes etc etc. To a degree it presupposes that my blogging is linked to reading web sites, but to me it almost always is. Of course, I can open Scribefire empty by clicking at the bottom right corner of the brower and start a post from scratch.
    It lets me choose which of my blogs I am posting to, which is sooo helpful. Can’t imagine using anything else.

    • http://www.trishussey.com/ Tris Hussey

      I’ll give ScribeFire another look Ivan. The one thing that I haven’t liked about ScribeFire is how it handles categories and tags. Course I’m also using Chrome now as my primary browsers so there is that…

    • http://bill.crazyriver.com Bill Kempthorne

      I’ve got Scribefire installed as well. If your blogging about what you surf – Scribefire makes a compelling case. It really lends itself to collecting web bits as you move between pages and put together a post.
      I’m reading into Tris’ post a look more towards ‘original’ content and the writing process which I think is less what Scribefire is about.

      • http://bill.crazyriver.com Bill Kempthorne

        Now if there was a way for Scribefire to be a comment tool for you (or other people’s) blogs that would be cool.

  • http://blog.ivanpope.com Ivan Pope

    I use Scribefire, which is a Firefox plug in. At the click of the mouse I open up Scribefire from any web page, including anything I’ve highlighted. I can drag elements off the page and format and save and make notes etc etc. To a degree it presupposes that my blogging is linked to reading web sites, but to me it almost always is. Of course, I can open Scribefire empty by clicking at the bottom right corner of the brower and start a post from scratch.
    It lets me choose which of my blogs I am posting to, which is sooo helpful. Can’t imagine using anything else.

    • http://www.trishussey.com/ Tris Hussey

      I’ll give ScribeFire another look Ivan. The one thing that I haven’t liked about ScribeFire is how it handles categories and tags. Course I’m also using Chrome now as my primary browsers so there is that…

    • http://bill.crazyriver.com Bill Kempthorne

      I’ve got Scribefire installed as well. If your blogging about what you surf – Scribefire makes a compelling case. It really lends itself to collecting web bits as you move between pages and put together a post.
      I’m reading into Tris’ post a look more towards ‘original’ content and the writing process which I think is less what Scribefire is about.

      • http://bill.crazyriver.com Bill Kempthorne

        Now if there was a way for Scribefire to be a comment tool for you (or other people’s) blogs that would be cool.

  • http://blog.ivanpope.com Ivan Pope

    Triss, Scribefire has come on a lot recently (I think it was bought by a new company). I don’t think the Tags and Categories method has changed though, but it is a solid bit of kit for me now.

    • http://www.trishussey.com/ Tris Hussey

      Scribefire has a lot going for it, and the save as you go is great. However, the one thing that really seems out of date is that they still use Technorati tags instead of the native tagging systems built into blog engines now. That’s a major showstopper for me. I’m not giving link love to a has-been site just because Scribefire still wants to link to them.

  • http://blog.ivanpope.com Ivan Pope

    Triss, Scribefire has come on a lot recently (I think it was bought by a new company). I don’t think the Tags and Categories method has changed though, but it is a solid bit of kit for me now.

    • http://www.trishussey.com/ Tris Hussey

      Scribefire has a lot going for it, and the save as you go is great. However, the one thing that really seems out of date is that they still use Technorati tags instead of the native tagging systems built into blog engines now. That’s a major showstopper for me. I’m not giving link love to a has-been site just because Scribefire still wants to link to them.

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